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Post by arthurbishop on Jan 8, 2011 2:19:52 GMT -5
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Post by harmonica on Jan 8, 2011 7:55:01 GMT -5
I bet Chaney has..  |
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Post by chaney on Jan 8, 2011 9:35:20 GMT -5
First I've seen of it, but definitely looks like a book of interest to us all. Will have to check it out.
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Post by bronson613 on Jan 8, 2011 21:32:04 GMT -5
Wow! I'm surprised this book has finally come out. I honestly never thought it would see the light of day. I remember first reading that Harriet was working on this book as far back as 1989. At that time, it was to be titled "Hollywood & Bronson." She mentioned it again on the A&E biography in 2002. That was the last I heard of it.
That being said, I have read the book and it gives some new insight to Charlie.
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Charlie had MANY affairs while he was married to Harriet. He also comes off as a little cold, even to his own wife. When Harriet had cancer, Charlie never called or even sent a card. He also sounded very jealous and consumed by money. There's also some stuff about his sex life I could have done without. There's some good stuff too, like his relationship with his family, his love of his children, and the way he treated Harriet in the early days of their relationship. There's also a cool Emmy award story involving Sammy Davis Jr. I had never heard before.
A few misconceptions are also ended once and for all. (1)Charlie did indeed serve as a B-29 tail gunner during the war and was shot in combat. He wasn't a member of the mess hall. (2)Charlie was not jewish, although Harriet is. (3) Charlie was born in 1921 and not eight years earlier like Michael Winner has claimed.
There are also some really rare pictures I've never seen before like his World War II squadron photo and a picture of him with his mom. Overall, a pretty insightful book even for people who thought they knew everything about Charlie.
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Post by maphillips3 on Jan 11, 2011 22:54:23 GMT -5
Thanks bronson613! I have two books of Charlie, and I am going to by this book right now, and give you my insight as well.
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Post by redsun on Feb 23, 2011 20:29:18 GMT -5
(3) Charlie was born in 1921 and not eight years earlier like Michael Winner has claimed. I read this somewhere else. Is Winner full of crap or did he really believe this for some reason? |
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Post by bronson613 on Feb 24, 2011 19:45:30 GMT -5
I take most of what Michael Winner says with a grain of salt. In addition to Bronson's real birthdate, I also have my doubts about Winner's claim of an affair with Jill Ireland and that he "turned down" Death Wish 4. I think the truth is Bronson was upset with Winner shooting additional footage behind his back on Death Wish 3 and he simply preferred working with J Lee Thompson instead.
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Post by harmonica on Feb 27, 2011 1:15:52 GMT -5
Has Winner ever claimmed of having en affair with Jill Ireland...
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Post by bronson613 on Feb 27, 2011 19:34:54 GMT -5
I guess technically it wasn't an "affair" since neither were married at the time. "Relationship" would be a better term.
Anyway in his book, Michael Winner said he was one of Jill Ireland's first lovers when she was very young. She gave him an ultimatum to either marry her or she would marry someone else. A few weeks later, he saw her and she had married David McCallum. Winner says Bronson never knew about the whole thing, although he believed in later years that Charlie may have suspected something.
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Post by harmonica on Feb 28, 2011 17:50:33 GMT -5
Winner said all that after Bronson's death?
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Post by bronson613 on Feb 28, 2011 20:04:37 GMT -5
Yep, it's all in his book. He also takes a couple of shots at Bronson for being slightly out of shape and grouchy during the filming of "Death Wish 3."
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Post by harmonica on Mar 1, 2011 14:28:47 GMT -5
Can you scan this and post it here?
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Post by bronson613 on Mar 1, 2011 20:07:33 GMT -5
I can't scan it, but here's some quotes. These quotes are all in reference to the filming of "Death Wish 3."
From the pictures section:
"Repeat visits to the plastic surgeon had changed Charlie facially from the man I first met. He was also getting a bit chubby, but still terrific to work with."
From page 252...
"Charlie, most unlike the man I knew, was complaining rather a lot. He said, "The gun's too loud. It hurts my ears..."
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"Charlie said "Jeez, my doctor told me not to run without warming up for an hour beforehand."
Winner did add that eventually Bronson gave in and did as he was asked.
There's also some stuff about Menahem Golan originally being slated to direct "Death Wish II," but Bronson insisted on Winner being brought back.
He also talks about Bronson nearly quiting "The Mechanic" because the producers didn't think Jill Ireland was right for the role of the prostitute.
And there's some stuff about "Chato's Land" where Bronson insisted a scene be re-shot because he would not appear with a nude woman on camera.
Even with several inaccuracies, it's pretty insightful and a good read. I got it for only $5 shipping included.
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Post by harmonica on Mar 2, 2011 5:08:29 GMT -5
Really great, thanks...What winner said about Bronson complaining about the guns being too loud is possibly true.If you take a close look at the ending scene from "10 To Midnight" when he fires, he suddenly closes his eyes in a very uncomfortable expression.I 've always been wondering how J.Lee Thompson didn't ask to film it again... you can take a look on 1:01 www.youtube.com/watch?v=kER6XvItkO4...it's more obvious if you watch it on slow-motion though. |
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Post by Mean Little Ass-Kicker on Mar 7, 2012 9:59:45 GMT -5
Thanks bronson613! I have two books of Charlie, and I am going to by this book right now, and give you my insight as well. Did you get around to reading this book yet? I'd be interested to know what you thought of it. |
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