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Post by harmonica on Jun 3, 2009 12:06:35 GMT -5
Director:Stuart Rosenberg (John Huston directed a few scenes)
Writers:Wendell Mayes, John Melson
Actors:Charles Bronson, Jill Ireland, Rod Steiger, Henry Silva, Strother Martin, Paul Koslo.
I don't know why, but "Love and Bullets" is in my top 5 list of Bronson 70's movies.It's an interesting movie with small tastes of action and suspense.Very underrated...
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Post by redsun on Jul 24, 2009 14:55:08 GMT -5
I saw it when it came out - twice. There is something great about it but it gets lost in the editing. I really think that if they were to re-edit it could be a great movie. The supporting cast -- Bradford Dillman, Paul Koslo, Henry Silva, Val Avery -- are second to none. Really excellent. Even Jill Ireland was good playing a dumb mistress. But, for me at least, I felt they could have made the film flow a little better. Less walking around in the snow going from place to place. Here is an excerpt from the only positive review of this film I've ever seen: "...the film emerges as a fascinating hybrid of American genre chase thriller and almost European art-house contemplation of the way in which the circumstances of life affect human relationships." www.widerscreenings.com/loveandbullets2.html |
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Post by harmonica on Aug 13, 2009 4:31:18 GMT -5
SPOILER:
Do you remember the scene in which Bronson and Ireland are in a hotel and Bronson makes a MacGyver kind of weapon with a tube and some screws wrapped with paper. Is that possible, Can you kill a guy like that ?I love the movie but I found that scene very unrealistic.
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Post by chaney on Aug 13, 2009 10:43:18 GMT -5
In a different post on CABOBLANCO I talked about a conversation with Denny Miller where he talked about Charlie. Denny said during the making of that film, which would have been a year or two after LOVE AND BULLETS, he witnessed Charlie strike up a conversation with a local boy. Charlie picked up a nearby steel pipe and proceeded to tear a page out of his script and wrap the paper around a nail he took from his pocket. The boy and Charlie pointed across the street at a wooden ladder on an adobe roof. Charlie held up two fingers indicating which rung of the ladder was to be the target. The boy shook his head and held up three fingers. Charlie nodded, put the wrapped up nail in the pipe, aimed, and shot the nail into the third rung with a smile.
Denny was amazed at Charlie's accuracy as the ladder was a fair distance away. I believe Denny said over 30 feet. He decided against asking Charlie where he happened to pick up this deadly skill. So, not only was this possible, but it was possible for Charlie. I wonder if this was something Charlie learned for LOVE AND BULLETS or if it was a Charlie skill that was merely showcased in that film. I would guess the latter considering his accuracy. Probably something he learned in his Erhenfield youth as one bio described that all the Buchinsky boys carried knives and were skilled at throwing them.
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Post by harmonica on Aug 13, 2009 14:06:10 GMT -5
That was really cool, thanks Chaney.
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Post by chaney on Aug 13, 2009 17:12:00 GMT -5
Charlie is really cool. Not a problem. Wish I had more contact with people who knew him.
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Post by maphillips3 on Aug 14, 2009 12:00:06 GMT -5
The world, don't make men like Charlie anymore!
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Post by harmonica on Aug 14, 2009 12:42:22 GMT -5
The world, don't make men like Charlie anymore! The problem is that cinema doesn't make manly actors like him anymore and we keep waiting for old movies to be released on DVD |
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Post by maphillips3 on Aug 17, 2009 15:47:06 GMT -5
Ye Harmonica, the producers tend to the teen fan base, nowadays, they don't feel the need for adult pictures.
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Post by redsun on Aug 19, 2009 17:48:59 GMT -5
The world, don't make men like Charlie anymore! The problem is that cinema doesn't make manly actors like him anymore and we keep waiting for old movies to be released on DVD Harmonica, have you heard of this magazine: www.cinemaretro.com/index.php |
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Post by harmonica on Aug 30, 2009 4:11:32 GMT -5
The problem is that cinema doesn't make manly actors like him anymore and we keep waiting for old movies to be released on DVD Harmonica, have you heard of this magazine: www.cinemaretro.com/index.phpThat's cool, thanks redsun. |
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Post by redsun on Sept 4, 2009 20:25:26 GMT -5
I don't know if I mentioned this before but my dad was a music professor at a college here in L.A. He also taught private lessons on weekends. One of his students was a little girl with the last name of Kohner. I bought the "Love and Bullets" one-sheet poster right after it came out (this was way before the internet so I had to do expensive mail order!) and when I showed it to him my dad said, "Pancho Kohner is my student's father!" Pancho, being the producer of Love and bullets and many of the '80s Bronson flicks (Paul Kohner, his father, was Bronson's agent). So I waited one Saturday morning for Pancho to show up. I left the one-sheet on a chair in my dad's music studio so Pancho's daughter would see it. She laughed when she saw it and called her father in (he would stay in a little RV on the street outside our house and work while she had her lesson). He came in -- this big Mexican-German-looking dude and was amazed that some 14 year old kid like me would have the one-sheet poster to this film that only played in the US for about 3 weeks. We talked about the film and I told him that one of my favorite scenes was --sorry, not the pipe scene -- but the scene where Bronson throws the ax and hits the guy on the roof. Pancho laughed and said that Bronson himself came up with that scene, that they outfitted the stuntman with a steel plate on his back, etc. Anyway, I was totally awestruck. Pancho gave me his card and told me to call him when they were making "10 To Midnight" -- that he would invite me to the set...like an idiot I never took him up on his offer. Though he did leave me a one-sheet of that movie which I probably threw away because I hated it!
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Post by maphillips3 on Sept 6, 2009 17:29:28 GMT -5
Aw Man RedSun! That would have been so cool to be on that set with Charlie.
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Post by Mean Little Ass-Kicker on Apr 24, 2014 21:17:52 GMT -5
Love and Bullets is probably one of the best and coolest titles in Bronson's career. Somehow it just fits like a glove! It's almost too perfect, like if Saturday Night Live had done a parody of a Charles Bronson movie, I can totally see them naming it Love and Bullets. Unfortunately, the movie doesn't deliver as much as it should with that title. I agree with redsun about the editing, it felt pretty sloppy at times, scenes ending abruptly and so on. It's a bit slow, too. I don't mind slow movies but there has to be something good on screen in between the action, we didn't get much of that in this I'm afraid. Jill Ireland did one of her best roles, when I first heard her voice I thought she was dubbed because she was so good at disguising her usual voice and british accent. I think the script let Bronson and Ireland down in this, as soon as I got to know her character I was looking forward to some funny banter/arguments between the two while they were on the run, but we didn't get much of that either. Truly a missed opportunity. Henry Silva always makes a good villain but he didn't have a lot to do here and it really disappointed me that him and Bronson didn't go at it at the end. Rod Steiger pulled off a great performance though as the studdering mob boss, really enjoyed his performance. Only a so-so movie in my book. The ending was cool though, very satisfying. Lalo Schifrin's score is one of the best things about the movie, it's too bad the soundtrack is not available on CD yet. I don't know if I mentioned this before but my dad was a music professor at a college here in L.A. He also taught private lessons on weekends. One of his students was a little girl with the last name of Kohner. I bought the "Love and Bullets" one-sheet poster right after it came out (this was way before the internet so I had to do expensive mail order!) and when I showed it to him my dad said, "Pancho Kohner is my student's father!" Pancho, being the producer of Love and bullets and many of the '80s Bronson flicks (Paul Kohner, his father, was Bronson's agent). So I waited one Saturday morning for Pancho to show up. I left the one-sheet on a chair in my dad's music studio so Pancho's daughter would see it. She laughed when she saw it and called her father in (he would stay in a little RV on the street outside our house and work while she had her lesson). He came in -- this big Mexican-German-looking dude and was amazed that some 14 year old kid like me would have the one-sheet poster to this film that only played in the US for about 3 weeks. We talked about the film and I told him that one of my favorite scenes was --sorry, not the pipe scene -- but the scene where Bronson throws the ax and hits the guy on the roof. Pancho laughed and said that Bronson himself came up with that scene, that they outfitted the stuntman with a steel plate on his back, etc. Anyway, I was totally awestruck. Pancho gave me his card and told me to call him when they were making "10 To Midnight" -- that he would invite me to the set...like an idiot I never took him up on his offer. Though he did leave me a one-sheet of that movie which I probably threw away because I hated it! Great story! Boy, that must make you sleepless some nights to this day, am I right? Why the heck didn't you call him? Were you shy or did you just forget? You could have hung out with Bronson and tell us all about it! Did Pancho sign your Love and Bullets poster? I can't believe you threw away the 10 to Midnight poster he gave you, even if you didn't like the movie. I would have kept it since it was a gift, from an important guy in Bronson's career nonetheless. |
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Post by maphillips33 on Jul 15, 2017 13:17:32 GMT -5
This is the worst movie of bronson's career.
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