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Post by maphillips3 on Jun 27, 2009 16:32:13 GMT -5
I was wondering who would win in a fight. Charlie(Hard Times) or Clint(Every Which Way But Loose)
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Post by chaney on Jun 27, 2009 18:46:35 GMT -5
Wow! Clint has quite a height and reach advantage and can throw those uppercuts if Charlie worked in close, but I see Charlie being tenacious and wearing Clint's effectiveness down. I'd like to think this fight started and is still going on. Thirty years of punches with breaks only for Olympia beer ...
This fight is a Draw.
In real life Clint was an Army vet and former lumberjack who dug swimming pools as a sideline before his acting career took off. He had a well-earned tough guy reputation. In the early 1950's Clint survived a plane crash into the ocean off the coast of San Francisco and swam about 4 miles to shore. A worthy opponent for Charlie.
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Post by harmonica on Jun 29, 2009 5:36:23 GMT -5
Come on guys, Eastwood was tough but in real life I don't think he would have any chance against Bronson.Bronson was obviously much stronger and very fast.
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Post by redsun on Aug 3, 2009 15:33:17 GMT -5
I agree. I think it was Roger Ebert who wrote about both actors, saying that Eastwood only looked tough on screen but offscreen he was a mellow, easy-going, funny guy. But Bronson, he said, is the only actor he was actually afraid of. I'm repeating what a friend told me so I might be a bit off the mark here but I think that was the gist of it.
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Post by maphillips3 on Aug 4, 2009 17:10:14 GMT -5
Yes redsun, I believe Roger Ebert said in a review of the movie "The Stone Killer" when he said at that time Bronson, out of all the movie stars, was the one you back in a fight.
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Post by redsun on Aug 6, 2009 12:47:39 GMT -5
Yes redsun, I believe Roger Ebert said in a review of the movie "The Stone Killer" when he said at that time Bronson, out of all the movie stars, was the one you back in a fight. or you back off from if he wanted to fight you!
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Post by chaney on Aug 6, 2009 17:50:47 GMT -5
I seem to recall the terminology "the last man you would want to meet in a dark alley" used in regard to Charlie. Thought it was Ebert who said that.
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Post by maphillips3 on Aug 12, 2009 16:26:43 GMT -5
I believe Jim Brown saying something like that, to some effect.
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Post by maphillips3 on Aug 20, 2009 18:57:44 GMT -5
Are their any comments from other actors, talking about the toughness of Clint, or if it was just an act?
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Post by chaney on Aug 21, 2009 10:43:05 GMT -5
William Smith, who fought Eastwood in ANY WHICH WAY YOU CAN, said Clint was one of the toughest actors he ever fought. Clint cracked a couple of Smith's ribs, but Smith didn't want to let Clint know that he'd hurt him. Smith has said that Rod Taylor was the toughest actor he ever fought. Their fight in DARKER THAN AMBER is a doozy, and many of the blows turned out to be real when they both got carried away. Smith again had cracked ribs but broke Taylor's nose. It's all on screen with no stunt doubles used at all. The Stuntmen's Association made Smith and Taylor Honorary Members.
Taylor was a former boxer in Australia, and legend has it he beat up Jim Brown when they were making DARK OF THE SUN. He also beat up Richard Harris several times during the making of THE DEADLY TRACKERS in Mexico. Taylor and Charlie would be an interesting match-up. Charlie had speed and toughness, but Taylor fought with downright viciousness.
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Post by maphillips3 on Aug 22, 2009 0:55:07 GMT -5
I remember him also saying a guy named, Leo Gorden was the hardest man in Hollywood, but he never worked with him, so he's just saying that from people he's talked too.
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Post by crego on Aug 22, 2009 8:33:45 GMT -5
Leo Gordon was an interesting guy : he wrote a lot of scripts for Roger Corman, and played hundreds of heavies in movies and TV. In his book "A SIEGEL FILM", Don Siegel said he was a scary guy, and worked with him several times. Leo Gordon wrote Bronson's "YOU CAN'T WIN'EM ALL", in which he also played his sidekick.
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Post by chaney on Aug 22, 2009 9:39:44 GMT -5
William Smith did work with Leo Gordon a few times on the TV series LAREDO and the movie version of MAVERICK. Smith's LAREDO co-star Neville Brand worked with Gordon a few times as well. Legend has it that on the making of GUN FURY, one of Gordon's first films, director Raoul Walsh told Brand and Lee Marvin not to hold back on a fight scene with Gordon and to give him a real roughing up. Gordon got the gist of what was going on and wiped the walls with both Brand and Marvin in front of cast and crew. Brand and Marvin were both highly decorated war heroes and had tough guy reputations as well. Brand used to get very drunk and terrorize the LAREDO cast. Smith was the only one who could handle him. Brand didn't work much in the late 60's because Smith had him locked up in his basement drying out.
Leo Gordon's first screen fight was with John Wayne in HONDO. He laughed in the Duke's face when Wayne showed him how to throw a movie punch, explaining he could of fired off three punches in the time it took Duke to wind up and throw one. When Wayne later took him to task for falling forward when he got shot, Gordon calmly lifted his shirt and showed Wayne the bullet scar on his belly, telling him that when the cops shot him in the belly for real, he fell forward. Gordon spent several years in San Quentin for armed robbery and was supposedly one of the most feared cons in the joint. He had also been a boxing champ while in the Army. Quite an actor as well.
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Post by maphillips3 on Aug 22, 2009 22:53:44 GMT -5
Interesting, did Wayne try to take it any further, after that? I believe Leo probably would have been fired, and blackballed for life, if he would have kicked john Wayne's ass on the Hondo set!
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Post by maphillips3 on Aug 22, 2009 22:55:17 GMT -5
How did Bronson, and Leo Gorden get along on the set?
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